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I am 99.999% certain that the X-Talon 212 is available and unchanged this spring – and I am 98% certain that when I saw the Fall 2013 line that they were still available and ,other than color, unchanged (I will double check the Fall 2013 catalog in the AM at work). You should be safe at least for this year!
I have not seen a preview of 2014 – but I did not hear anything from Inov-8 this year that I thought hinted that they were going to stop building shoes on with the Narrower/Performance fit.
The current advertising on Facebook about the ‘Wider’ shoes in the Cross Fit/Functional Fitness part of the line reflects that in addition to plenty of choices built with the Narrower/Performance fit (the fit the current 195/230 are built on) that there are now a nice range of choices built on the Wider/Anatomic last (the Trailroc series is built on the Anatomic fit and is distinctly wider than the X-Talon 212 and 190).
The new Inov-8 website lets you filter the shoes by fit – http://www.inov-8.com/New/Global/product-select-US.asp?L=27&A=Trail – for the ‘Off-Road’ shoes, note the ‘Select Fit’ drop down for a, perhaps, reassuring list of trail shoes with the Performance fit.
I agree it would be a shame to loose the X-Talon 212 – it is a GREAT shoe – although I was glad that they added the wider Trailroc series since it works better for my foot.
Hope the additional information is interesting!
Summit Hut Buying Team
Thank you for the great news Charles. I wasn’t sure if they were going to start changing all the models to the wider toe box. This was just my pleas to make sure they didn’t change the Talon’s.
Just wanted to follow up now that I have the F13 catalog with me –
Same: X-Talon 212 is still in the catalog, the fit is listed as the same/narrower fit, 2 arrow, 6mm drop, still the X-Talon sole.
Changes: The color is now Black/Orange/Blue (it is pretty crazy bright!) – the sole is also blue in the catalog, the upper material is listed as updated – I don’t remember the material and if the change is noticeably different – but the good news is the upper pattern is the same so I don’t expect the fit to change, the Midsole is listed as updated and is now listed as ‘Injected EVA’ which is is used on nearly all the newer shoes – probably ok although you have put so much time on these who knows…
I am pretty optimistic the new version will be close to the current version – but especially if you have any attachment to the current color (or Black/Orange/Blue sounds less than fantastic) I would stock up on a few pairs of the current version!
Good pleas BTW!
Summit Hut Buying Team
Thank you for checking that out and confirming the Talon’s are coming back with very few changes. I can handle a new color, just not a new shape and design. The new color may actually help me figure out which are the older pairs when I searching for shoes at o’ dark 30.
First, I want to thank you for your support of inov-8. It’s consumers like you that drive our passion to perform and deliver for our athletes.
Turns out a friend of yours (Jason Crockett) sent an email to our customer service email address, letting us know about this blog and your concerns that we were changing the characteristics of our shoes that you love the most…fear not!
It seems, however, that Charles Miles of Summit Hut has beat me to the punch. I’m not sure I could answer your concerns any better, but will offer my own two cents.
As you mentioned in your post, we hear from a lot of consumers with wide feet that our performance last is just too snug. I can assure you that we’d never stop using the performance last, only that we’re incorporating more of our anatomical (wider) last into the construction of our core range (F-Lites key among them). So, the F-Lite 195, 230 and 240 all remain on the narrower, performance/precision last you love. We’ve simply added wider options (F-Lite 219, 232, 239, 249, 252 and 262) for the folks that need them. You’ll see a slightly redesigned midsole on the 195, but this is purely aesthetic. The injected EVA construction remains. As Charles mentions, the product pages on our site clearly lay out the lasts each shoe is built on.
Regarding the 212, the color will indeed change for Fall ’13; I think you’ll like it…I say that because many of the key accounts we’ve shown the range to tell us that it is easily the best looking trail shoe, from any brand, they’ve seen to launch this Fall. Regarding the construction: The upper construction is the same with very minimal material tweaks (for the better). The midsole does change, going from a compressed EVA (like the F-Lite 230) to the injected EVA of the F-Lite 195. I would imagine that you’ll like this considering the 195 is a shoe of choice for you. The outsole remains the existing X-Talon construction.
We are always looking for feedback from our consumers and I appreciate yours. Our ongoing goal is to satisfy you, our core consumer/athlete, and loyal supporter. We will never stray from the core construction components that have launched us to where we are today, save for a few tweaks here and there to keep us competitive and on trend with new innovations.
I hope you still think our shoes are “perfect.” We sure do.
General Manager, Americas